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Otago Branch
July 2010 [Read for CPD points]
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In this Issue
- NZIOB / HAYS Salary Guide 2010
- Did you miss Conference 2010?
- The Dart Board Survey No Joke
- Important Message about Associate to Member Transfers
- Standard Method of Measurement - The Future!
- Standard Method of Measurement - Conference Workshop Report
- Standard Method of Measurement Survey Information Required
- Quantity Surveyor saves ski field
- Quasi-legal
- QSnippets
July 2010 Issue JL1
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NZIOB / HAYS Salary Guide 2010
New Zealand’s building industry stabilising, confidence returning.
Following a tumultuous 2009, confidence is returning to New Zealand’s building industry. That’s one key finding from the 2010 New Zealand Institute of Building/Hays Construction Salary Guide.
“While it will take time for a full recovery to take place, the market is slowly but surely bouncing back,” said Jason Walker, Managing Director of Hays in New Zealand. “The first areas of candidate demand are emerging once more. According to the Salary Guide, Project Managers, Senior Managers, Estimators and Quantity Surveyors are among the most difficult skills to recruit.

The New Zealand Institute of Building/Hays Construction Salary Guide can be accessed at: www.hays.net.nz/about/NZIOBSalaryGuide2010.pdf (Press release 30 June 2010)
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Did you miss Conference 2010?

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The Dart Board Survey No Joke
XD: I hope you realise Matthew I will need to calm some members down about this logo before I lose my job!! Already 6 responses and three are serious, with one hoping it is a joke and 2 apparently knowing it is a joke.
Editor: Did the serious ones consider making a trip to the AGM to stop it? (If they read their AGM agenda they would know that no such motion was put forward.). I assume the 3 that were not serious were impressed with the joke??? I can print an apology for those who took it seriously. Which I am sure will give more laughs to those who saw the joke straight up.
XD: Another 15 or so responses to your logo survey overnight so goodness knows how many will come in the daytime. You miscalculated how serious QS’s are and how seriously they take whatever is said in the e-bulletin as policy. I suspected this would happen but I decided to allow it to see what would happen. I have confirmed my suspicions so we will have no more joke surveys - we will have to explain to these and others who respond that it was not serious. See you in Tauranga.
Editor: I have drafted an apology. Please issue ASAP this morning before HQ staff depart for conference.
The Apology (XD): Yesterday, we issued an E-Bulletin with what was meant to be a joke (see below). I regret that it has not been seen as a joke by many members and appears to have offended some also. It is not the intention of the Editor or the Council for members to be offended by editorial and in this case we unreservedly apologise. No more jokes!

100 Members Respond to Apology (sample): Have you received any positive feedback? ä A message of support. This is not a problem……………….the Middle East however is a real problem, we collectively need to lighten up a lot more! ä Oh B’S. That’s a great joke. We should have more of them. I laughed like crazy! ä I thought it was brilliant. ä Well done, that was a great spoof, ...please send more jokes ä No offence taken. All jokes aside I truly believe it is time to update our Logo. The number of times people think I am a Land Surveyor when I tell them I am a Quantity Surveyor………. What can we replace the theodolite with? ä I guess on the up side it shows that people are reading the Bulletin ä I love it - it is a bit of humour, and especially with this economic climate - the logo isn't actually that far of right now. ä no wonder other professionals and tradesmen make jokes about us! ä surely the role of the Editor/Council is to raise topical and sensitive issues - sometimes that will involve stirring up the hornets nest. Keep up the good work. As an International Member, I particularly appreciate the bulletins. ä This was the best thing for ages from the NZIQS (please don’t take offence) ä Well done. I was completely fooled and that does not often happen. Congratulations ä Very appropriate for estimators - 5 minutes before the tender closes. ä It’s not as if you were slagging off some other institute’s logo or emblem. We have a dart board in our office and when visitors come in and see it, we joke about it being our estimating tool. Of course we are not serious.
The Editor and XD greatly appreciate the messages of support. We also acknowledge that the delivery of the dart board joke was too straight for some. We have backed down from the “no more jokes” statement but we stand by our apology. We respect the views of ALL members. Please keep sending them in, brick bats or bouquets.
We know at least 120 members read the e-Bulletin!
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Important Message about Associate to Member Transfers
From the Executive Director. MEMBERS - IF you send an e-mail request to transfer from ANZIQS to MNZIQS - you will receive an e-mail response acknowledging it within 2/3 working days and then a letter with a new Membership Certificate within 4 weeks.
If you believe you have made a request and not received the e-mail response from me within 3 working days then we have NOT received your e-mail. Please send an e-mail to me and try again. 2 members have reported this although we have received over a 100 requests for transfer to date. "
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From an International member. “Re MNZIQS - yes I am happy to do it. Just haven't got round to it. I don't have any great psychological attachment to "Associate" status. So count me in. Interestingly enough, on my company CV (that is forwarded to our clients) it states that I am a member of the NZ Institute of Quantity Surveyors, but what gets greater comment is my "Registered QS" status - because Aussies don't have that. Keep up the good work!”
Please transfer me from Associate to Member category
It is FREE and automatically processed.
You will receive a new Membership certificate with special recognition of your original date of attaining Associate status plus a note that you have transferred on request.
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Standard Method Of Measurement - The Future!
As you are probably all aware, most Architectural practices throughout the country have now adopted MasterSpec for their specifications production. MasterSpec is based upon the CBI Work Sections document produced by the volunteer group ACBINZ and now championed by Construction Information Ltd.
Work sections consist of much smaller packages of work than the traditional trades that we are all so familiar with. While the trades structure has worked exceedingly well for the construction industry over the past 50 odd years, its work force is now made up of a whole host of specialist contractors focusing on niche activities previously performed by the main contractor. The introduction of more and more new building products has also led to a greater number of specialist or licensed installers. Work sections provide a direct link to the increasing number of specialist contractors/installers.
Providing a work sections based SOQ further facilitates the tendering process in that the main contractor does not have to go through the hassle of breaking the schedule trades down into work sections because it is already done. Because the "Trade" Summary would consist of a far greater number of sections, there would be less likelihood of tenderers leaving something out of their tender. For example, toilet partitions and hardware, which are currently covered under Carpentry. Carpentry is also used to pick up all sorts of miscellaneous bits and pieces, which can so easily get missed out at tender time. By having both the Spec and the SOQ produced on a work sections basis, a direct link is set up between the Spec and SOQ. However, it is fair to say that we can never achieve a perfect match as a SOQ does not quantify quality of materials and workmanship.
In preparing a work sections based SOQ, there is no additional measuring work/time required. We are simply packaging the measured items into a greater number of smaller sections, rather than the 48 trade sections that we are used to.
I believe the time is right for the NZIQS to take charge and establish its own SMM based on work sections.
by Ray Knowles, FNZIQS.
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Standard Method of Measurement - Conference Workshop Report
Two/Thirds of Delegates elected to sit in on the Standard Method of Measurement Workshop at Conference 2010. Chris Prigg, Gordon Cairney and Ray Knowles presented opening view points which was followed by open friendly discussion about the preliminary SMM Survey results, whether we keep and / or update NZS 4202 and adopting the proposed CBI based SMM
The perceived of the mood of the workshop was;
That NZS4202 was not worth the expense to make any updates (noting the inequity of Standards NZ control) when industry still use it effectively, albeit generally in accordance with, etc. That it can remain as a NZS unchanged for now given;
That there was a general consensus to proceed down the path of an NZIQS SMM based on the CBI Classification and Coding system, developed and owned by NZIQS;
However, at the end of the meeting, there was a call for a survey to be circulated asking for what direction the membership wished to proceed with this.
With regards to 3D Modelling being the main driver for establishing a CBI based SMM, it could be the fear factor for the QS profession, that if we don’t do something, somebody else will, and we will be left out in the cold!
Conference workshop report by Ray Knowles, FNZIQS & Matthew Ensoll, MNZIQS
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Standard Method of Measurement Survey Information Required
The results from the first survey (40 responses) were presented verbally by John Granville to the Standard Method of Measurement - Conference Workshop. At the end of the meeting, there was a call for a survey to be circulated asking for what direction the membership wished to proceed with this. Full survey results will be released to members in August.
Since the second survey release XD now has 83 responses.
ALL Members are now requested to Complete the SMM Survey which will be circulated repetitiously following this E-Bulletin until members’ enthusiasm for responding is exhausted.
Comments Welcome on BIM, SMM Conference Workshop Articles
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Quantity Surveyor saves ski field
Nelson NZ - Martin Hay, quantity surveyor, spearheaded the lengthy and challenging campaign to save Rainbow Ski Area. [The Marlborough Express] A great roll up your sleeves read. Worth clicking just to see the “cool” photo. Note one correction, Assets = $1Mil (not profit). Martin also heads up quantity surveying practice Hay & Associates Ltd in Nelson and is also ANZIQS but he has agreed to consider a transfer to MNZIQS.
Branch Cup awarded to Auckland (4th year in a row), Presidents Citation Awarded to
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Quasi-legal
Quasi-legal a type of regulatory instrument, rule or regulation with strong legal aspects but without any binding force; mostly recommendations.
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The shifting sands of building liability - Feedback
Thanks for your efforts Geoff. I am sure the members will appreciate reading the varying comments and opinions. Hopefully this will stimulate everyone do their own research and form their own view. I love a good healthy debate, and the LBP scheme is worthy of further discussion. Applications have increased two-fold in the last 4 months. I am currently assessing three guys for carpentry and one for Site 2. These applicants are all self employed, have vast experience (one has 40+ years) and exceptional skill levels. Very pleasing to see. Barry Calvert, ANZIQS, LBP
Quantum Of Damages For Repairs WHRS Adjudication
“Rynbeck (a defendant) gave evidence that (effectively), he had the same qualifications in quantity surveying as Mr Alexander and Dr Walls. He said if he completed “quantity surveying three”, then that would “make him a registered quantity surveyor”. He said that was all commercial and high rise which did not interest him and which I take to be irrelevant so far as this claim is concerned. ”He gave evidence that he had extensive experience (over twenty years and two hundred quotations) in providing quotations for construction work, mainly (as I understand it) new work, but also some renovation work, including repair work. He provided a detailed and careful analyses of his calculations. His evidence (on quantum) was far more extensive than anything provided by the assessor,…”
Highlights one definition of an expert witness as discussed in the Conference 2010 Expert Witness Workshop. For the full Determination 39 pages PDF 114Kb refer QS Link.
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QSnippets
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- Conference highlights. There are too many to fit into one E-Bulletin. But we must at least note here in the first issue after conference that Keith Harvey was elected President for the forthcoming year and Ian Harrison was awarded Life Membership at the Gala Dinner night. Also Bruce Glennie left Council after 4 years Vice President, President and 2 years as Immediate Past President. More on these and other conference highlights will appear in the next few E-Bulletins. Congratulations Keith and Ian and best wishes Bruce.
- Graduate Member (GNZIQS) Proposal. The proposal did not pass a vote of the members at the AGM. The principle was considered good but the understanding of details re work experience etc insufficient for acceptance by attending members. The details will be reviewed and another proposal will likely appear. Expects news from Council about this from Branch Board comments in the near future.
- New Zealand Trends in Property and Construction. Download RLB June Economic report PDF 16 pages 7.2MB QS Link.
- Salary Guides. NZIOB/Hays (New Zealand), Hays Australia and New Zealand and Hays UK
- E-Bulletins are now a twice per month service. The Next E-Bulletin will be issued midday Wednesday 28 July 2010. NZIQS have increased your e-bulletin. CPD read from 12 issues PA to 22 issues PA. Plan your lunchtime CPD read now.
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LPMS - Professional Indemnity for QS’s

Land Professionals Mutual Society Incorporated (LPMS) is a voluntary risk management organisation that represents the interests of surveyors and valuers and kindred professions with its principal objectives being;
- Guidance to members on the ways and means of avoiding or minimizing liability claims;
- Providing members with supportive claims assistance and administration including quality technical, legal and insurance assistance;
- Offering members access to especially tailored group professional indemnity and other liability insurance facilities on a voluntary basis.
LPMS has arranged group professional liability insurances for Member Firms since August 1976. Originally membership was restricted to consulting and land surveying practices but was expanded in 1983 to include valuers in public practice. In 1985 membership was extended to kindred professions involving professional practices who provide consulting services in quantity surveying, clerk of works, farm management, forestry, planning and property.
Insurance Consultant & Broker : Insurance and Claims Administration
Aon New Zealand Limited, Professional Risks, Doug Morton P 04 819 4086
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DISCLAIMER: The views expressed in this publication do not necessarily reflect the views of NZIQS Council, Institute policy or advertisers and sponsors of the Institute. The content of this publication is not to be construed as legal advice.
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